The Arterburn Radio Transmission Podcast
The Arterburn Radio Transmission is a blend of cutting edge commentary, fused with guests who are the newsmakers and trailblazers of our time. Your host Tony Arterburn is a former Army paratrooper, entrepreneur, and historian. Tony brings his unique perspective to the issues facing our country, civilization, and planet.
The Arterburn Radio Transmission Podcast
Tony talking Gold, Silver & Bitcoin on Yeah Yecca
Get ready to unlock the secrets of gold and silver investment with Tony Arterburn from the Wise Wolf Gold and Crypto show. Discover how the recent all-time high gold prices reflect the instability of global currencies and how understanding the distinction between currency and money is crucial in today's economy. Tony also explains the benefits of owning fractional gold and silver for everyday transactions and provides a fascinating historical perspective on gold standards and their modern-day implications.
Have you ever wondered how to protect your loved ones from fraudulent schemes? We address the alarming rise of scams targeting the elderly, where fraudsters pose as treasury agents to drain victims' savings. Tony shares a real-life story of how quick action saved someone from a significant financial loss. Listen in as we highlight the importance of vigilance, second opinions, and the steps you can take to safeguard your family from these malicious tactics.
Join us as Tony recounts his journey in the Bitcoin space, from running Bitcoin ATMs to creating Wise Wolf Bitcoin, and learn about the intersection of Bitcoin and precious metals. We discuss the importance of exceptional customer service in small businesses and the role it plays in building trust and loyalty. Plus, get an exciting sneak peek into a new Bitcoin initiative and hear about Tony's personal health and dietary practices. This episode is packed with valuable insights and practical advice for anyone interested in gold, silver, Bitcoin, and safeguarding their financial future.
Thank you, yay, the video intro worked. Welcome everybody to another episode of yeah Yeka, where we cover culture, conspiracy, carnivore and Christ consciousness. Yeah Yeka, where we cover culture, conspiracy, carnivore and Christ consciousness. Today it's going to be kind of like a dual show, with the one and only Tony Arterburn from the Wise Wolf Gold and Crypto show, as well as a main sponsor of the show thanks to Wolfpack and Wise Wolf Gold. So we're going to be chatting about all things gold, silver, bitcoin and some things happening over at Wise Wolf and Wolfpack. Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2:Thanks for having me. It's been a long time have I been on this actual show. We've done shows together, I think, maybe a while back. It's been too long and I started to feel neglected, so I'm glad that you pulled it through.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so thanks for coming on. It is definitely always better to have a guest on. It makes the show a lot easier to go through, for sure. So let's get started by. I'm going to ask you, because I don't remember how many times has gold hit its all-time high this year now?
Speaker 2:I don't know. That's a great question. It happens like every week now. It reminds me of that quote from Vladimir Lenin of the Bolshevik Revolution. He said sometimes you have decades where nothing happens and weeks where decades happen. In the last year especially but really 2024, it's been a reckoning it went from like $2,100 an ounce to $2,500 an ounce, and I mean breaking the $2,000 range sometime about a year ago. It's been hard to keep up with and I've been staring at the gold price for almost a decade now, like every day. So it's a lot happening at once, jekka.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, I started writing in my notebook the price of gold and silver that day, and so at first I was just doing it once a day. Now I'm just doing it throughout the day, like a couple, two or three times a day, because it's always changing and I put the time on there just to see how much it can change. And there's really no. There's no pattern to it or anything like that, it's just it goes all over the place. You know I'll be doing quotes sometimes early in the morning, and then an hour later it's like no, I can't do that anymore. Or you know the other way around. Yeah, it's so crazy how it's all over the place.
Speaker 2:Well, and it's an indicator of what's happening in our world. Really, it's a barometer for the currencies around the world that are denominated, that are monetized in gold. You can see those currencies are getting weaker because the governments and the central banks are having to print more of their fake currency and you know that's a strong word, fake, right, but that's what it is. I mean, we have our dollars used to be backed by gold. We had a bimetallic system in America from 19th century onward until 1933. And then it was illegal for you to own gold.
Speaker 2:1971, richard Nixon takes us off the gold standard. Gold was $35 an ounce. But the key to all of this, when you're watching prices and commodities, and especially gold, because gold is money and what you have in your wallet is not money. What you have in your wallet, or even if you swipe a credit card, that's debt, right, and that's currency. Those are two different things than money. Very important for you to have a distinguishing objectivity when it comes to that. So what we're watching really is not the price of gold, like it's becoming more valuable per se, but we're watching the decline of purchasing power in the dollar. But it's not just the dollar. It's the Japanese yen, it's the euro, it's the British pound sterling All currencies going up against gold are losing, and the reason that they're losing is because gold is stable and the rest of the world is printing themselves out of debt or printing themselves out of fiscal overruns and deficits, and when they do that, it creates inflation. Inflation is loss of purchasing power. So that's your economics lesson for this morning.
Speaker 1:I'm sure that won't be the. You know dealing with with gold and silver. A lot of people on both. When they purchase both gold and silver, a lot of times they get specifically one ounce pieces. But I wanted to see if you could talk a little bit about why fractional gold and silver is also important to have you know to just a little bit why it's good to diversify in that aspect.
Speaker 2:Sure. Well, so a Troy ounce and this comes from the measurement of gold and silver out of Troy, France, hundreds of years ago, and this is kind of creating the modern economic system gold and silver are measured differently. So if you're going to measure an ounce, don't do it by a regular ounce. It's OZT, not OZ. And actually it's kind of where you get the allegory of the Wizard of Oz, the Yellow Brick Road, and the OZ is the ounces. If you really pay attention to that story, it's an allegory on the gold standard and we should cover that sometime. That's a lot of fun. But yeah, the reason you'd want to have fractional anything is so you can better trade with that. Like, if you've got an ounce of gold, like we just said, it's over $2,500 an ounce, so you're not going to go spend $2,500 on groceries. Well, some people do, I guess, if you're really stocking up, but most people aren't.
Speaker 2:I mean, I can't afford that.
Speaker 2:But let's say that you were. So an ounce of gold is just too much to use for something like that. As a matter of fact, the $20 gold piece is from American history. The $20 gold piece pre-1933 is right. Ounce of gold, um, so that would be like $2,500. That's what $20 turned into right, this is $2,500 worth of gold, um.
Speaker 2:But if you break that down, uh, you and you fractionalize it, it makes it easier for you to trade, for you to bought uh barter, and for you it just makes it easier for uh for it to circulate. Silver is really good for that. You go back to a time when gas was a dime a gallon and they actually laughed at Ron Paul when he ran for president and he said you know, I can get gasoline back down to a dime a gallon. And people laughed and he said well, actually a silver dime is worth $3. And people just kind of lose the thread on that. It's like well, why is silver worth more? Well, it's not worth more, it's worth the same. It's your dollar that's worth less. They don't teach you this in school because part of the game is to get you to be a compliant worker bee and chase the green pieces of paper. I promise you that the super wealthy are not chasing cash, they're chasing assets, they're chasing equity. Um, they're not chasing what regular people try, just trying to paycheck to paycheck and pay those bills. And they want you on that hamster wheel. If you knew this then you could break free, and that's why they don't want you to know that. Um, so that's why it's really important to have fractionalized stuff. It just makes it easier to denominate.
Speaker 2:And if you're on a budget, which all of us are, if you're on a budget and you want to save gold and silver I mean not everybody has $2,500 to buy an ounce of gold Well, you can probably buy a gram. You know we charge at Wolfpack what a little over $100 a gram. There's 31 grams in a troy ounce, so you can break that down. I mean, you're going to pay more when you buy fractional precious metals because the way that this way that everything works, the mints work, that everything works, that you're going to pay a little bit more. But that's okay. Sometimes those pieces are really valuable to you because you can get some purchasing power out of them through trade and through other things that you wouldn't get out of a big bar or something like you and I all the time, where people come in and sell us 100 ounce bars of silver.
Speaker 2:We'd love to see it, but I'd much rather see like to. I think this morning we bought a lot of dimes, bought a lot of silver dimes at our Denison location, so that's cool and we'll have a lot of silver dimes to go in Wolfpack. Anything prior to 1965 is really cool to have, because before 1965, in US currency, dimes, quarters, half dollars and dollars were 90% silver, so that's silver currency and that's why they're worth. What worth, uh, what they are today, and then, of course, anything 65 and onward is, you know, chucky cheese money yeah, yeah, no, like I, I love the fractional pieces because you know it is more affordable, like you said.
Speaker 1:Like, not everybody has twenty five hundred dollars to buy an ounce of gold, so, um, that's something that I personally have been trying to get a little bit more of. When I see that we have it in stock, I I'm interested even in, like the. Well, I like little tiny things, so I had to get the quarter ounce and half or half grams of gold, cause I just like little tiny things, um, but yeah, it's just, it's more affordable to get those and you know, and there's always cool designs on them too, on, I feel like on the smaller pieces, and they're just really cool. Like the. I got some of those one gram silver bars too. They have like a whole bunch of different designs and they're really cool, and so I like to encourage people to get those. So I like to encourage people to get those Also because right now, especially with the 10-ounce pieces, we can offer a really good deal compared to other places. So I always love giving our customers good deals.
Speaker 2:And I buy those too when I'm saving, because, even the owner of the gold and silver company, I have to pay everybody else. I don't have a lot of money. I'm trying to stack, just like everyone else, a bit at a time. So, uh, I buy the fractional gold and I love, I love, like certain coins, like, uh, the gold Krugerrand. I'm a big fan of that. I wear one around my neck, you know, I love the gold Krugerrand.
Speaker 2:This is something it's an easy way to save. You know these are worth what, these little 10-thousand gold Krugerrands. You know it's worth about what we charge a little over 300 bucks right now for a 10-thousand piece. But it's, you know, south African, it's recognizable and it's gold. It doesn't tarnish, it lasts forever. You know people don't dive to the bottom of the ocean to get cash. You know they don't set out on treasure expeditions to go get bags of cash.
Speaker 1:They go to the bottom of the ocean to get the gold and the pirate money. I also want to ask if we can talk a little bit about the gold bar scam and if maybe we can share a little bit of what we have already experienced with that.
Speaker 2:It's just completely awful.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you got anybody that is susceptible and especially hits people that are elderly or alone or widowed. We had somebody call us, and it's really not our job to pry too much. If you're competent and you can send us a wire and you know what you want. I mean it's kind of insulting if I imply that you can't order from me, so I'm very careful not to say well, are you sure you want to order this If somebody's calling, no matter their age? And we had somebody call and spend quite a bit of money with us and they knew exactly what they wanted.
Speaker 2:On the second order, though, I was reading about this new scam that's going on where people pose as treasury agents and tell elderly people to go buy gold, and so I was talking to you and I just said let's give this lady a call, and then I was at the airport in Los Angeles. I'm going to give her a call and just make sure. And sure enough, and it's really sad, they preyed on people's fears. They told them not to tell anybody, to be secretive. This happens a lot in the scam world and things that I've experienced in the Bitcoin business, which is a real unfortunate and not something that happens all the time, but it is something that you have to look out for. So nobody will ever call you to tell you to buy gold and you can call us to ask, you know, if, if this is real, you know, if you feel like you're getting scammed by anybody in precious metals and you're dealing with another company or whatever, just call us or have somebody call us or ask us about it, um, we're happy to help. Uh, and it is really important. We were on the second order, which is a very large order, and we I made a police report and I talked to her and explained to her it wasn't real. She knew it, though, you know, in her heart she knew something was wrong with it, but she didn't tell us and, um, so we were able to stop it.
Speaker 2:I feel bad that we didn't get it on the first run, but again, it's kind of if you don't know, you don't know. It's. It's hard to ask somebody something that I wouldn't. There wasn't any red flags that came up. Um, there's some people that order from me, order from us, and if they know what they want, the more. And they, she said it was a financial advisor. Uh, next time I'm going to ask who the financial advisor is and, um, I didn't. So, uh, that's obviously you know, we do all that we can to stop any kind of scams, but really sad deal. So be be on the lookout. There's a lot of evil people. Um, and I wish I could have handled it myself. Uh, I really, cause she's in Kansas and I was like I wish you lived down the street from me and, um, I have a lot I I wish I could. I'm not. I'm not in law enforcement. I hung up my all my gear a long time ago of being a military policeman, but, man, that really that got me good. I'm still mad about it.
Speaker 1:So I know, yeah, it's really infuriating. So basically, the scam is people. They'll target the elderly and they'll call themselves a treasury agent, right.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:They say they're from you know some, some big, important treasury company, and they're from the government and they're here to help.
Speaker 1:So if they say that that should be your first red flag. And you know they they basically tell you that you need to withdraw all your savings, convert it into gold bars, and that's the thing. It's specifically gold bars, big gold bars yeah, that's from what I was reading and that they're going to take your gold bars and put them somewhere safe. Right? So that's how it goes. And scammers, they can be smart, but they can also be dumb too, and so they're dumb in the sense they can be smart, but that it can also be dumb too, and so they're dumb in the sense that they are literally doing it like that. They're doing it with gold bars, they're targeting the elderly, they're calling themselves a treasury agent.
Speaker 1:So if you hear anybody working with a treasury agent or anything like that, definitely have them, get a second opinion.
Speaker 1:Like Tony said, you can reach out to us and and you know, always get a second opinion whenever you're dealing with huge, huge amounts of money. You know you don't want to put yourself at risk to be losing that stuff. If you have any elderly family members that you know have a lot of savings put away or anything like that, just warn them about this scam, you know, just tell them that if anybody reaches out calling themselves a treasury agent, you know to call, call a family member or somebody else. So just wanted to share that with everybody and give everybody warning about it, because I didn't know about it until you were talking about it the other day, and that's when you know I was. I was like, hey, there were some red flags with this lady. Now that you're saying that, you know they might not be red flags, but they can also very well be red flags. So you know we really care about taking care of our customers, especially because we do have a lot of elderly customers.
Speaker 2:And we do with people all the time. I mean, we don't discriminate, you have the ability to. I mean we're not going to. Just, oh, are you sure Did you ask your children? We're not going to do that. I mean, I'm just not going to. I'm not going to play that kind of game, especially if somebody's they've taken care of themselves enough to have retirement savings. We want to help them. So we feel bad when anything like that would happen and a lot of times even they could be so deep in the scam. They won't tell you, you know. They may be told not to tell you, or this something you know. So we have to. We're just really we've tightened up everything after that.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 2:I'm glad. I think on a subconscious level I picked it up just reading the story and I'm like that lady, you know, and it kind of went back to that. And anyway, I'm glad we it could have been worse, it was a lot of money. It could have been worse on the other end for that, for her. So yeah, I'm glad, I'm glad you brought that up. It's always a good public service announcement.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, for sure it's. I think it's. I mean, it's definitely not talked about enough because I didn't know about it until, you know, last week. So I just I definitely think that it needs to be brought up and people need to be made aware of it. Um, so I also wanted to get into a little bit of just like sharing what everything, um, all the things that we can do over at Wise Wolf, gold and Silver and Wolf Pack, um, cause we do a lot. We don't just offer the subscription service and we're not just a store that you can just come in and buy stuff. You know we do a lot of other stuff. So I kind of wanted to see if you could share and go into detail of some of the stuff that we do over here, over there.
Speaker 1:Well, yes everywhere in the U?
Speaker 2:S we've got two physical locations, which gives us a leg up, I think, a lot of online dealers. So you've got you know this whole region between Southern Missouri and North Texas. You can come to a physical location and trade with us, buy and sell. So we're a full-service gold and silver exchange. We can buy gold, jewelry, gold bars, coins, silver, everything. I mean flatware. We'll buy forks, spoons, knives, anything that's silver. We buy it. And even silver shot. We've bought that. We've bought old electric wire supply and stuff that's silver. I bought rolls of it. I bought all kinds of crazy things over the years. So we're full service. That way, with our locations, you can mail us stuff. I mean, if you want got, if you want to say, take old, broken jewelry or scrap or things that you don't want anymore and you want to turn it into credit to buy a coin or anything like that, or just turn it into to fiat currency and turn it into cash, we can do that too.
Speaker 2:Um, so, yeah, we're a full service gold and silver exchange and, um, and we don't have any minimums. Uh, we, we treat everybody the same. That's one of the I mean, that's the one of the mission statements of my company is that everybody gets treated with respect and we're not, you know, putting you on the lower rung because you have 50 bucks. Um, because I've been that guy and, uh, and, and I've gone through that treatment before when I was starting out and we educate you. That's the thing about us. I think we really try to walk people through why, if we've selected a certain thing for them to buy and I'll walk them through If they've got a budget and say, hey, I've got $5,000 or I've got $2,500, whatever it is and I want to purchase some metals, we'll say, well, this is what we recommend. And here's why and I think anybody who's buying, most of the time I would be comfortable to say that that's what I would buy for myself. Sometimes it would be different because they have different needs, but most of the time, if somebody asked me to make an invoice or recommend, that's what I buy for myself. Like I mentioned earlier, you pay more premiums for the fractionalized gold or silver, but I buy that for myself, so I don't just throw that on my customers. I mean, I buy it for myself because I'm holding for the long term. See, that we should start thinking about and this is something that has been rolling around in my mind since the bitcoin conference. I went to the bitcoin conference in nashville.
Speaker 2:I think that we stopped treating gold and silver as like an investment, or bitcoin as an investment, and start thinking of it as generational wealth. And I know that's hard, because sometimes you got to sell those things and I'm looking at ways where I don't have to sell them. Let's say I need cash. I would love it if Wise Wolf could get into the business of being a lender where if you have silver or gold, you give it to us, we can lend against it or something like that, because then you can get it back. And I think that's the thing is.
Speaker 2:We get into the trap of having to cash out and do things. But if I can get more discipline too, like for the long haul, like every piece that I get, I'm never selling this Worst case scenario, I'll borrow against it. And I got to start thinking more like that. That's originally how I intended, like my son's savings account and things is like okay, we every coin we get, every ounce we get, I need to be able to use it, but maybe not trade or anything, but maybe I borrow against it. And, of course, debt is tax-free.
Speaker 2:I know this is like a complicated, you know I'm getting off into the weeds, but the lesson here is that gold and silver physical gold that you hold is wealth. That's a representation of energy and work. And if you're saving dollars, the problem that you have is that some bankster somewhere is running that printing press until it goes brr, you know, and it's just far beyond anything you can imagine. There's not enough paper in the world to cover the amount of dollar units that have been created on a screen, and every time they do that it weakens the purchasing power of the dollar and it's not coming back. You know, fiat currency is the lifespan of them, and fiat means by decree, it's like, because they say so.
Speaker 2:It's latin um, but the lifespan is about 26 years. So we're double the average lifespan, historically, of a fiat currency not tied to anything or tethered to anything. But all these other countries around the world are too. They followed us after 1971. So there's 52 times more currency on earth than today, than when I was born, so 44 years ago. And now there's 52 times probably more now, right, and that's a statistic I read a year and a half ago. So it's more and it's going to be more, because that's how governments and central banks they inflate their way out of problems.
Speaker 2:When you flake your way out of a problem to cover an override and a deficit, then the weakens the currency and that game's going to go on and on and on perpetually until they digitize everything, and then that's a whole other problem. So really, what you want is you want to have something that's yours and be your own bank. That's what I'm working on and playing. I'm doing the same thing for my customers. That I'm doing for myself is I'm I'm advocating something that you know you get for yourself, you uh, save, you put away, and something that's generational, something that's real.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure. And you know that's why I also like helping put together the Wolfpack invoices, because I am a Wolfpack member also. So you know I get to put and I and I just get the lone wolf. Um, and I love the lone wolf it's. You know it's very small 50 bucks a month Um, you know I've had it for a while now, almost a year and you know it's very small 50 bucks a month. You know I've had it for a while now, almost a year, and you know I have all this silver and all these cool gold backs and things like that and it's just a really easy, easy way to stack. But that's why I love putting together the invoices, because you know it's like, like you said, like it's, it's what we would get for ourselves. So that's why I really like doing those too Well, I'm glad you do.
Speaker 2:You did a great job with that and that's kind of behind the scenes. A lot of people don't know that YECA builds the invoices with a little bit of my help. I mean maybe just a little bit, but now she's got it down to where she just cranking them out and they look great. So I'm very, I'm very pleased.
Speaker 1:Thanks, thanks, I learned I learned from the best, so I'm very, I'm very pleased. Thanks, thanks, I learned I learned from the best, so she learns from my chaos.
Speaker 2:I'm like. I'm just always like, hey well, look at this other thing we can do, and then trying to keep up with me it's a full-time job, so but I mean well.
Speaker 1:I wanted to share also what we are going to offer in regards to Bitcoin. I know you have some stuff in the works for that. A lot of people are. I feel like Bitcoin is starting to trend again, like it's starting to get popular again. I feel like it always goes through these waves up and down, like we're in like phase and I feel like it's coming back. Can you share what we're going to be offering in regards to Bitcoin?
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Yeah, this is something I've been working on a while. I've been in the Bitcoin space since 2016. I did Bitcoin ATMs with my brother and didn't know what I was doing. I mean, I got into, I learned a lot and relaunched again, did my own thing and had them in the physical locations from 2018 until about 2022. So now I'm going to bring about a system where you can buy and sell with us. There won't be any ATMs or kiosks. We'll have a walk-up locations. You can deal with us direct in the physical world if you like, but it'll be online. It's Wise Wolf Bitcoin. That's what we'll be doing online. Uh, it's wise wolf bitcoin.
Speaker 2:Um, that's what we'll be doing. So it's a separate company, separate thing. But the cool deal is is we're going to accept bitcoin for precious metals. We're also going to have a buying program where you can do automatic, just like wolfpack you said automatic, and then yeka and I will, uh, send you an invoice, do the same thing but with bitcoin, and help you. Uh, that's your bitcoin, like it won't be like some abstract thing where you're bitcoin somewhere. It'll be your bitcoin.
Speaker 2:We'll have to work out the details and I'm working with compliance people. There's a whole bunch of it's an investment folks like I'm. It's not easy and I'm working on it. I've been working on every day for the last few weeks. Once we decided we were going to do this, so we're going to and I can't make the full announcement now.
Speaker 2:I'd like to be set up to do it, but we're going to do something that nobody else does and that's going to be the cool part about Wise Wolf Bitcoin and it'll be one of these things, too that will help set us apart from a lot of the other metals dealers and help with our clients, and we can't compete always with the big boys, but we make up for it in customer service and being attentive, and I mean most people know, like they call Wise Wolf, you can get all the way to me. I mean you're going to talk to the owner. I mean that's all it takes is to ask. Even if I don't answer the phone or if I'm not somewhere, just ask. And if I don't answer the phone or if I'm not somewhere, just ask. Or if I don't call you back, just ask for Tony. We'll put you on the calendar and that's the difference and it's always going to be that way.
Speaker 2:I think, as I have gone down the road of this journey of building these things, that's one thing I don't ever want to get off of. I don't want to ever not be the guy that handles the issues for the people that keep the business afloat, which is my clients. So it's not me that drives it, it's the people. They have to be happy and I'm proud of what we've been able to do. It's a lot of challenges, but I feel like we're up to it. We've got a great team.
Speaker 1:Yeah for sure. You know I think a lot of people that have a job don't realize that the business wouldn't be there without the customers. So you know it's a very, very important part of any business to have customers and you know to make sure that they're satisfied. We live in a world nowadays where, like customer service is non-existent, even in customer service jobs like. It's like you go to a restaurant or you you call customer service for whatever company and you can hear.
Speaker 1:You know that and obviously I like you know a lot of people work from home but you know you hear them like yelling at their kids or they're yelling at you or whatever like, and they're like so rude and it's like why why do you have this job? Like no customer service skills? What are you doing here? You know so it's it is rare to see good customer service in most business nowadays. You know I've worked in customer service most of my life and I always that was like one. That's why I I like working in customer service to make other people happy and you know to provide a good service and you know it's really not that hard in most jobs to make customers happy. You just have to go a little bit extra and like they're so happy, you know.
Speaker 2:I wake up every day I try to figure out how we can make this thing better, and that's what we see. You don't always do the best job with customers, because you can get overwhelmed and it's like a small business, it just just trying to get things done. When you come at it with the spirit of I'm going to serve people, I think that's that's the winning spirit, like that's what you got to have and that's what built this thing. That's why I'm still here. Um, you know, that's how I can sleep at night, because anyone who's ever ordered for me got their product period full stop.
Speaker 2:And I always will Like I'll, I don't care, I don't care what it is, I'll make the delivery, um, and that's just the kind of company that we are. And, uh, when I remind myself of that, it's like all anxiety just kind of dissipates. I'm like, okay, well, you, your customers, are happy, everybody else can wait. Whatever entity I have to deal with to be in business, the number one thing is the people that have bought product from me. I feel like we're on the best path that we can be on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the problems will always be there tomorrow. But yeah, I love finding extra little cool goodies to put in the wolf pack and stuff like that, like pens, stickers um, putting beans on everything it's fun to put beans on everything yeah, I don't know if you can guys can see this but get a little cool wolf pack pen right over here, off to my left she's.
Speaker 2:whenever I'm on air I'm in my office here in Branson. She's going to be right here. She's got a little her little place, her little bed.
Speaker 1:Very good, good little co-host. So let's see, yeah, so you were saying we just we don't just sell, we also buy. So, like I just wanted to share, like for people that, um, do want to sell their stuff to us, that you can always ship it to us. You can just reach out to us and get the shipping information. Um, I do want to work on putting together a simpler way, uh, for people to ship to us. There are some really cool ideas I've seen other people doing so. We have a lot of updates in the works for getting things more streamlined and things like that.
Speaker 1:But, yeah, you know, I love that we focus on, you know, taking care of the customers. Like I said, it's something that doesn't really happen a lot in today's world, and so I really do think that is something that sets us apart, and there's not a lot of businesses that focus on the customer service. You know a lot of people focus on on profit, which obviously, you know is very important also for running a business. I think it's it's one of the most important things for running a business. But, you know, the without good customer service, you know you can lose a lot of customers if you don't have good customer service and, and you know a lot of people do come to this business because they trust us, they trust you.
Speaker 1:You know they. They trust the people whose show you go on to and talk, talk to, and you know they have a lot of similar beliefs and so I wanted to share that. You know that those are some reasons why it's it'd be good to work with us. You know, if you have similar beliefs like how, like it's so hard to find businesses that have similar beliefs you know and and promote. You know that we do believe in God and you know I love saying God bless to the customers. It's like one of my favorite things and they always sometimes they'll say it to me first and then that makes me even happier when they say it first. You know, but when you, when you support us, you're also supporting people with similar beliefs. You're not supporting some big globalist gangster goblin or anything like that. We're real people with real spirits.
Speaker 2:Well, that's absolutely right and it's been. It's harder and harder for small business to make it. I've been on lots of podcasters that there's some great entrepreneurs and young guys out there and I've talked to a lot of veterans that have that are starting businesses and are have started businesses and they're out there grinding. It's the politicians and the powers that be don't want you to succeed. Sorry, they just don't. That's just the way that. That's the way the world works.
Speaker 2:And but the good news is is that if you're taking care of people and you're finding a way to serve people, then you're going to be a lot better off than you think you're going to be. And we just kind of put our faith in God. I just, every day, I'm like, ok, I'm, I made it this far and, you know, always keep that spirit of how can I serve and how can we get better. And I think we you know you and I I think we always improve something with the business every single day, even if it feels like we're not. And it's good for you and I to do these kind of shows because we're going to speak a little differently than when we speak just by ourselves on the phone, and this is something for the record for everybody forever, and I think that something that you bring to the table is you're always looking for ways to make things better.
Speaker 2:It's one reason you work here. It's one reason you're part of this and a integral part of the team. Um, if you were to leave right now, it would be catastrophic. So, like the way I'm always like, yuck is happy, right, yeah, because I need yuck around um, so no, it is um, it is just a spirit. I think of service and there's going to be obstacles and all that good stuff, but at the end of the day, we put people first.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and God wants us to serve. So remembering that just helps keep us on track and remember that the customers are the main reason why we're here. That's right. You know we have over twelve hundred subscriptions on Wolfpack, which is awesome. I know. When I started, was it under eight hundred, I think last year? Yeah, yes, so so that's awesome, that's, that's a lot of growth and I think that is so cool. I'm trying to pull up to see, but I'm, I'm, I know it's over 1200 still.
Speaker 2:So it was over 12. Yeah, when you started, uh, yeah, it was under 800 for sure, and we don't think we broke 800, uh, until you got here, I don't know, until you started full time. So, yeah, I was struck by the way folks, you have no idea how hard I worked. I couldn't figure out why we couldn't break that number. We just stayed. We'd go to almost eight, then fall back, almost eight, then fall back, and I just told you I'm like I'm just trying to break in, do more advertising, do stuff, and then all of a sudden we hit 1,000.
Speaker 2:And it's been pretty steady since then, a pretty steady growth and and it and I think bringing you on, as we've paid more attention to just, really just me and you doing the invoices every week, every few days or whatever it takes, even the smaller invoices for people to do the direct orders, it just made a difference and, uh, it's a lot more, I think, a lot more attention to detail.
Speaker 2:We were, we were doing okay before, but I think even the experience for somebody that's joined Wolfpack if you haven't done it, I mean, we're always looking for cool things to put in there Just make you feel like you're a part of this because you are. I mean, the more people that join, you know, like if we had 2000 people right now, everybody's going to get better pricing. I'm going to be going crazy, crazy finding things to put in there. I'm going to go everywhere to find you know new product. But and that's where our physical locations help with that too that's something like people walk up and sell us stuff and then we'll just take that inventory and put it into Wolfpack. So I think we've got a pretty good, pretty good thing going on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure. I wanted to share with everybody, just like, exactly what wolfpack is. Um, you know, I'm sure you have some of your viewers watching on here on the rockfin channel, um, but for people that um from from that are watching on on my show, um, that don't know exactly what Wolfpack is. So Wolfpack is like a subscription service that we offer Starts at $35, goes all the way up to $5,000. And I wanted to share some things too that, even though it's like on our website and the FAQ stuff, sometimes it surprises people.
Speaker 1:You know, we try to put all the information on our website. I try to put like sample invoices on the pictures so you can see everything, what it could possibly be. But so there it is. You can purchase it with a credit card, so just want to let people know that there are credit card fees built into the totals, if you do decide to try it out. There are shipping fees and credit card fees built into the invoices.
Speaker 1:But we do this cool like comparison invoice where we go look at our major competitors pricing and then we put their pricing on there underneath ours, and so, even with the shipping and credit card fees, you're still saving money shopping with getting Wolfpack orders instead of going to the major competitors, if you were to buy it with a credit card and we always beat their, beat their prices. Like you know, when we're doing the invoices, tony's always doing the math, like oh, how much? Like where, how much are we beating them? And you know he's always make sure that we are giving a good deal. So that is a really cool thing. With the Wolfpack you cannot customize them unless you're getting a Zen Pack. You can either get a gold or silver or mix, and that's about all of the adjustments or customization you can get on the Zen Pack, because since we are such a small company and we do have over 1200 subscribers, we can't really make like 1200 different invoices and so um, it gets really complicated when you start doing that.
Speaker 2:So we just decided that the highest tier, so starting at 2000,. You can customize, you can. You can customize a bit. You can tell us all silver, all gold or mix and that gives us the ability to still go and find the stuff for you, but that's where you get to choose and I think we'll get to maybe add some things later in this year as we get towards the holidays.
Speaker 1:I think that when we get some other things straightened out that we'll be able to give you some more options at the lower level, but right now I think we're doing just fine. Yeah, absolutely so. Yeah, it's not customizable, but you are able to get custom orders separately if you want to do that, and we usually do, like an e-check payment, that you know. We can do other payments, but that's our preferred payment method. If you don't want to use your credit card some people don't have a credit card, um, and so you can order with us that way. If you don't want to do that, route um, and but we can't guarantee the savings if you do like a custom order. That's the cool thing about the wolf pack is that we like really I love when the saving, because we put how much you save at the bottom on there, and I love when it's like 10 percent, because sometimes you do get 10 percent savings and so, like I know right now we have some really cool. What are they? They're all graded one ounce silver, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yes, we have some graded one ounce silver coins that are from mints, like the you. But if you, if you're getting those, then you've got some collectibles to hang on to those because they're. We just don't have time to move them and I was, you know, talking about with that yesterday with you and I said I could make more money if I put them out at ebay and stuff. But who has the time for that? I don't't have time right now. We got customers and orders to fill, so we just literally pass that kind of stuff on to our members, like you guys got a great deal and we love you. So you know, go if you want to sell them, you can sell them and you could make a profit off of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, we were looking at the comparison prices for one ounce silver coins.
Speaker 2:They were, some weren't some of them like three hundred dollars, like for one ounce or something.
Speaker 1:I was like so we didn't put that price on there for the comparison price it was a little much, but uh. But you're still eating and like the, the price that we compared it to, I don't. I think it's like way lower than it should be for what you know some of those coins really are, but you know it's still a substantial amount of savings. Was it $10 or something? Savings still per one ounce.
Speaker 1:At least or something like that. So those are going to be going in the Zen Wolves specifically because we just have a lot of one ounce weird things, lots of ones of one design, and so if you're interested in checking out getting some of those coins, highly recommend to sign up for a Zen Pack. You can do a one-time purchase to it. You don't have to get the subscription. I know a lot of other companies that offer subscriptions. You have to sign up for the subscription and then cancel it, but with us you can just do the one. We have the option. You can just do it one time if you want to try it out.
Speaker 1:So definitely check that out. If you want to get some cool coins, see here. Oh yeah, so, because I know a lot of people always ask when you're talking about the, the Bitcoin stuff that we're going to be doing, what do you think is I know I've asked you this before, but I'm thinking it's probably a different answer now the timeframe of when all this Bitcoin stuff will launch? Do you think it'll be maybe towards the end of this year, or what are you thinking?
Speaker 2:No, I think we're within the window of 45 days or so. I'm working, I'm plugging away every single day, trying to get a little closer to the goal. So I'm thinking, within 45 days or so, I'm I'm working, I'm plugging away every single day, trying to get a little closer to the goal. So I'm thinking, within 45 days, we'll be able to to make you know a major announcement, and then you'll be able to come over and buy and sell with us and and trade for precious metals and and all of that. And, again, there's going to be something, something to that that I'll I'll do like a press release on, because we'll be the only people that I know of in the United States that will do a particular thing with Bitcoin and precious metals. So I'm not going to say what it is, though I don't want to ruin it. It's going to be a surprise, and we'll do it on your channel. I'll go on everybody's show. It's going to be a lot of fun, though, and I think it'll surprise some people.
Speaker 1:Awesome, yeah, some people Awesome, yeah. No, I'm excited for all the Bitcoin stuff. I know, like I said, I know it's getting trendy again Bitcoin. I see it on my feed to people that never have talked about Bitcoin or starting to talk about Bitcoin and all that stuff. So I think there's lots of lots of good stuff in the works for Bitcoin there. So that's all I have for today.
Speaker 2:That's all you have for today.
Speaker 1:That's all I have for now. I'm sure I'll have some more questions later today.
Speaker 2:Well, I've really enjoyed being here and you've been very consistent with your shows. As a fellow podcaster, I mean tip of the hat to you, because I know this is hard to do. Every single Friday I do, I try to do mine. You know me, I haven't kept up. I've been either traveling and sometimes I can't do my show. Last week I was in Los Angeles and then I did my show yesterday, so that's good, but you know I have the same kind of same kind of thing. But you've been on the radio for 11 years now, um, and I'm finally, I'm finally getting good at it. I think I'm finally getting where I can do the radio. Um, but I did and I miss it. You know I miss doing the shows, but you've been consistent. I can't think of it. I mean, you've been to every, even if it's just a cooking show. So you know, show Yaka. Some love, go give her a review on a podcast app, share the feed and give her a comment. She's working hard and she's only got the one sponsor. We need to find you more sponsors. We only got the one sponsor here with, uh, yeka dot gold, but uh, uh. But it's a great content, it's a great show and I want to see you do every friday. I want to see you here live doing, doing that and uh, that's why we happy to have you on rock fin on the america unplugged channel and uh, and everywhere else. So really, really glad to see you doing what you're doing. Yeka has influenced me a great deal. I I um deal.
Speaker 2:I came up through the world of powerlifting and stuff when I was a kid and represented the US when I was in the military. I was at the world championships and won a couple of world titles along the way and learned a thing or two about diet. But it's kind of like you, you know, you're, you are the, the, the five people that you spend the most time with and, yeah, can I talk every single day because we're working together and build stuff and she's been my very good friend, so I've learned a lot about carnivore. So if you're, if you're kind of on the fence and you're like what is karma? It doesn't make any sense. I'm going to have high cholesterol. It's not bad, it's not good for me, it's bad for me, you know, and it's not like you just really keep looking at it and uh, you know, if you want to feel better listen to this, this great philosophy, and there's something to it, because the better, the more that I do.
Speaker 2:You've and I never really had a problem with sugars and other things like that, but it it creeps up. You know processed foods, you find it something convenient, you know, or you don't eat enough. I find the times when I'm you know if I'm drinking plenty of water, I'm getting steak and I'm getting eggs and I'm getting ground beef and I'm getting that kind of stuff, but I'm not also doing the processed things. I feel so much better, I'm stronger, I got less inflammation, and this is just a true story. I mean, and I don't even do it enough. I don't do the job that I should do, like today. I mean I'm off grid in my cabin. I didn't wake up and have eggs, even though I have chickens.
Speaker 2:I could have done that. You know I have like a protein cookie which isn't like your cookie. Yucca makes protein cookies. She'd be a billionaire. It'd make wise wolf go bank. I mean, it wouldn't even be the same category. She'd just be like not even return her phone calls if she'd sell her cookies online. So I don't know if you're ever up for that. You should figure out how to do that. They're like protein cookies that you buy at the store and I ate one of those and I've had a lot of coffee, but that's it.
Speaker 2:That's sad, and I could have done better. I could have done better. I could have had, I could have had some, uh, uh, you know, some eggs and cheese and maybe some avocado or something like that. I'd feel a lot better than I do right now. But at least I didn't eat a bunch of processed garlic. I didn't have pop tarts and I didn't have, you know, a McMuffin Okay, I had I. You know. At least I'm eating a little bit cleaner, um, but, but not totally. And I learned, I'm just, I'm more cognizant of my, my diet because of YECA. So props to you on that.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank you. Yeah, that's another one of those things that you know the government tries to tell us we need to eat 12 servings of bread and very little meat and a whole bunch of vegetables and seeds. And you know it's it's not really, it's not really right. You know it's it's not really, it's not really right. So, yeah, it's.
Speaker 1:I think it's definitely important to look into nutrition. If you're, especially if you're trying to be, you know, like a child of God and you're just trying to be the best that you can be, you know God wants us to take care of our temples, and I think that's something that's not talked about enough, especially in the world where people have faith. A lot of times, I see all these unhealthy people at church. Obviously, they're sick, obviously, I know they have health issues. They talk about their health issues, and then also, a lot of churches are serving a buffet of donuts on Sunday morning to the congregation, you know, which I think is horrible, and and so you know, I think it's something that's not talked about enough. So thank you for for bringing that up. Health is definitely important, for sure, and I'm glad I was able to help you in that regard.
Speaker 2:Yes, thank you yes.
Speaker 1:Well, thanks again for coming on. Please let everybody know where they can find you and support your business.
Speaker 2:Well sure you can find my website is arterburnnews and long overdue for an overhaul. I am I am working on. I just signed Yaka, reviewed the contracts that I'm doing to redo my websites and that's part of it. It's one of the things I'm doing, so I'm finally getting that done. And YECAgold Go to YECAgold. You can find everything at YECAgold. You don't need to go around that, just go right to that.
Speaker 1:And all the links will relevant things for the business will be there. Yes, for sure. Yeah, you can reach out to us and you can call or text our number. I think that's another cool thing that we do have a 1-800 number, but you can text it and I will most likely answer.
Speaker 2:True, true story.
Speaker 1:Yes, all right. Well, thanks again. I'm actually going to. I'm going to see if these little videos will play. We have had a wonderful new employee join the team over at Wise Wolf, gold and Silver and that is, uh, houston Arterburn. He's been putting together some really cool stuff on social media. I pray that this is one of these, at least is going to play for you guys, um, cause they're really cool, really well put together. So I'm going to put these on here for the end of the show. Thanks again, you guys, and I'll see y'all next week.
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