What if our world is a carefully controlled illusion, designed to stifle the technological marvels we were promised? Today, researchers Chris Graves and Mr. Anderson join us to explore how elites might be suppressing technological progress, leading to a stunted 21st century. We spotlight Nikola Tesla's revolutionary contributions, from alternating current to wireless communication, and his struggles for recognition and funding. We ponder the idea that our technological trajectory has been manipulated to maintain control.
Could the Trump family be linked to Nikola Tesla's mysterious inventions and even time travel? We dive into fascinating theories involving Stanley Kubrick's "The Shining," John G. Trump's handling of Tesla's papers, and the peculiar parallels in Ingersoll Lockwood's books about Baron Trump. This segment also examines the profound impact of oil magnates like John D. Rockefeller on our technological path, questioning whether our dependence on crude oil has stunted human ingenuity.
Join us as we uncover the controversial history of alternative energy inventions and their suppression. From high-efficiency carburetors to water cars and energy machines, we discuss how inventors like Charles Pogue, Tom Ogle, and Stanley Meyer faced significant opposition and untimely deaths. We also explore concepts like zero-point energy and anti-gravitational propulsion systems, revealing the intersection of innovation, economic interests, and scientific debate. Throughout, we reflect on the ethical dilemmas faced by inventors in their battle between principles and success, and ponder the broader implications of suppressed technologies on our societal progress.
What if our world is a carefully controlled illusion, designed to stifle the technological marvels we were promised? Today, researchers Chris Graves and Mr. Anderson join us to explore how elites might be suppressing technological progress, leading to a stunted 21st century. We spotlight Nikola Tesla's revolutionary contributions, from alternating current to wireless communication, and his struggles for recognition and funding. We ponder the idea that our technological trajectory has been manipulated to maintain control.
Could the Trump family be linked to Nikola Tesla's mysterious inventions and even time travel? We dive into fascinating theories involving Stanley Kubrick's "The Shining," John G. Trump's handling of Tesla's papers, and the peculiar parallels in Ingersoll Lockwood's books about Baron Trump. This segment also examines the profound impact of oil magnates like John D. Rockefeller on our technological path, questioning whether our dependence on crude oil has stunted human ingenuity.
Join us as we uncover the controversial history of alternative energy inventions and their suppression. From high-efficiency carburetors to water cars and energy machines, we discuss how inventors like Charles Pogue, Tom Ogle, and Stanley Meyer faced significant opposition and untimely deaths. We also explore concepts like zero-point energy and anti-gravitational propulsion systems, revealing the intersection of innovation, economic interests, and scientific debate. Throughout, we reflect on the ethical dilemmas faced by inventors in their battle between principles and success, and ponder the broader implications of suppressed technologies on our societal progress.
All right. Ladies and gentlemen, this is going to be an interesting episode of Paratruther I always talk about. Our reality stems from fake money. You go fake currency, fake news, fake politicians, fake wars, fake economies with real consequences. But you know when you really boil it down? We also have this broken promise of a future.
Speaker 1:You know, when we were, when we were kids, it was supposed to be flying cars we were supposed to have. You know, free energy. There's supposed to be, not, not only just space travel, whether you believe in that sort of thing or whatever it is it's supposed to be. We're supposed to be so far advanced, but it seems that we just don't. As a matter of fact, a lot of people call it the 21st century is like the stunted century. We didn't grow. We might have expanded our ability to take pictures of our food or spy on people, but that's about it. We didn't really grow. And according to my research and I brought on the A-team if you read history, you really look into our current reality, then you start to see that it is manipulated. And if it's manipulated, that means things have been suppressed. So I brought back the A-team for the researcher without peer. Chris Graves is here. Chris is coming to us live from a reverse engineered lockheed martin ufo. Uh, somewhere at area 53.
Speaker 2:Uh, thanks for joining us, chris thank you, yeah, no, I'm coming from, uh, the silo of uh uh, I don't want to say hangar 18, we'll just say hangar uh 37 okay, I like you, that's good.
Speaker 1:And, of course, mr anderson is broadcasting from a parallel dimension where cheers is still on the air and, uh, the, the twin towers are still standing and mr anderson, uh, welcome back to your own show, sir oh, thank you, but even at that bar and cheers they still don't know my name.
Speaker 3:It's just Mr Anderson.
Speaker 1:That's true. Anonymity, even in the other dimension folks, that's how important it is.
Speaker 2:Is George Wendt and the postal guy still having beers with each other at this point in time?
Speaker 1:In the dimension that he's at. That's what I can gather. Wow, ok, all right, well, ok, so that this the conversation that we've been having off air, but I want to throw it to Mr Anderson because this was one of his ideas for the episode, and I'm fascinated by this because it involves Nikola Tesla, it involves conspiracy, it involves interesting gadgets and things that we've never seen. If you're interested in inventions, like I am, and I a great deal about tesla and the history of that and, and you know the the concepts of free energy and other things and his, we can get in and we're gonna let you get into to what happened to his notebooks and his writings. But, uh, uh, right off the bat, mr anderson, are we? Are we living in a false reality where technology has been suppressed by the elites?
Speaker 3:So that's an interesting question. I'm not sure you kind of have that same predicament you have with whether the moon landing was fake, because lots of people argue you would have to get so many scientists to go along with that narrative thousands upon 10,000s of people. So if you're thinking that technology has been suppressed forever every form and variation of it you'd have to have a lot of scientists who are just interested in science to go along with that. So I'm not sure it has entirely, but it definitely has in some examples we'll share through the show tonight. And yeah, I was interested in doing this topic because I'm very fond of Nikola Tesla, as you know, and most people don't know a whole lot about him. They definitely don't know as much as they should. And in my opinion he's probably one of the most disregarded scientists that there's ever been, even though he's probably my favorite, or at least one of my favorite. And the thing about him he didn't even have a degree. He was a Serbian American but he was originally born in Croatia. He studied there and he just got a job in Edison's lab and he was very smart, never finished his degree but came up with all these crazy inventions. And Albert Einstein was actually asked one time what it felt like to be the smartest man alive and he replied I don't know, you'll have to ask Nikola Tesla, which is just very, very funny to me. But what he's known for on the periphery would be alternating current, ac current, which is the standard, what we use all the time today, and that created conflict between him and Edison, because Edison was a direct current guy, so he wanted the grid and the infrastructure to run off direct current and he did all sorts of hideous demonstrations. He actually killed like live elephants in public using alternating current to show how dangerous it was, but he ended up losing and AC current became the champion. Nikola Tesla also invented wireless communication, even though Marconi got all the credit for it, because he created the first radio wave based wireless telegraph.
Speaker 3:The induction motor was Tesla hydroelectric power, fluorescent lighting, remote control, particle beam weapons which is a big thing now directed energy, because basically we don't want to shoot down Beijing balloons that come from science fair experiments in China with $450,000 sidewinder missiles. You want to use a laser or something. So Tesla did that. But Tesla was not good at promoting himself and he was terrible with patents. For instance, he made Westinghouse a lot of money and then Westinghouse was going to go bankrupt because of the royalties he owed to Tesla related to the induction motor. Tesla ripped up the contract because he had this romanticized, idealized version of science and he wanted it to be available to the masses.
Speaker 3:So the most famous example of that is what you mentioned, tony Wardenclyffe Tower. He was interested in tapping into this field called the zero point field or zero point energy, and providing just wireless energy immensely to everywhere. And in the beginning, jp Morgan was funding Warren Cliff Tower until somebody tapped him on the shoulder one of his banking reptilian buddies and said you know what he's trying to do, right, you're going to lose a lot of money if he's successful doing this. So JP Morgan pulled the rug from under him. So Tesla actually died a really kind of sad life.
Speaker 3:I think you know it was either Westinghouse or JP Morgan. They put him up in the New Yorker, but he ended up dying alone, and before he died alone, he was actually hit by a car. You'll see that a lot of these examples I think we're going to talk about people that were hit by cars or that they were almost Seth Rich a lot of them, and some of them were. But he ended up getting hit by a car when he was walking to feed these pigeons that he loved because he was a lonely guy. And lots of people think, you know, it just wasn't because he loved pigeons and animals. Some people speculate that they were carrier pigeons that he was using to send messages because he was being watched by the government. Well, hold on, maybe there's something to that, because he ended up dying in the New Yorker in room three, three, two, seven, which you and I were discussing, tony, same numbers as room two, three, seven, which we mention all the time, just rearranged in an extra one and that's the documentary that has.
Speaker 2:That includes the supposed hidden um hidden confession by stanley kubrick of his supposed involvement in the Apollo Moon land.
Speaker 1:It's from the Shining. If you watch the movie the Shining, there's just a ton of hidden messages in there about the Moon land.
Speaker 2:Room 237 was known as the Moon Room.
Speaker 1:Because the Moon's 237,000 miles away from the Earth earth. So kubrick.
Speaker 3:Kubrick changed the the number of the room to be that. I just thought it was funny. It's the same numbers same number, same? No, yeah, it's just their prime numbers right, but when he ended up dying, um, the fbi ended up raiding his belongings and so, um, the person in charge of going through all of these items and seeing if there was any there, there was a guy named John G Trump, and he's related to the Trump, you think he is and he was part of the National Defense Research Committee.
Speaker 3:He was a professor of electrical engineering at MIT. He found a death ray box, again related to that directed energy particle beam weapon I was talking about. And then there are conflicting reports, because the day I think it was the day before Trump took office, Obama ended up releasing all these classified documents that are heavily redacted, but some of them say 30 trunks of material from Tesla's hotel room and others say 80.
Speaker 2:So it's just weird, mr Anderson. Was the earthquake machine a part of that? Those patents?
Speaker 3:I've never read that or heard that, but I wouldn't be surprised. I'm just barely scratching the surface of the things this guy was able to come up with. I mean, if there are aliens, I would say Tesla would have to be half alien or something. He was just brilliant and he died, actually in a very sad fashion. But yeah, the Trump connection is just crazy to me because we've also talked many times about, you know, ingersoll Lockwood and his book Barron, trump's Marvelous Underground Journey, and, funny enough, trump went by the pseudonym John Barron in the 1980s, so it just harkens back to John his uncle. It's just, it's just weird. So I think that's where people came up with the time machine and Nikola Tesla connection and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's his middle name, Donald John. Yes, right, and it's his uncle. And yeah, that's the. That's a rabbit hole conspiracy we need to have. There's a few researchers I'd like to have on one in particular. I heard on the higher side chats that went into this about little baron trump's marvelous underground adventure and all the weird synchronicities. And again, it's, it's a. It's a strange one. You know you talk about uh, not only the. Uh, the figure that the kid falls follows baron. You know he comes from trump castle and he follows this figure underground, uh to to Russia. And the guy that's named the Don, he follows the Don and they look things up through this device called the goggle and it's like Google. It's really weird.
Speaker 3:I heard it's just written terribly.
Speaker 1:It's terrible. By the way, I read Ingersoll Lockwood's the Last President, because that's where it gets weird. Because he was a politico and he was appointed by Abraham Lincoln, I believe to screwing with the gold standard, because Lockwood was a rock rib Republican backing William McKinley and William Jennings Bryan wanted free silver. So, anyway, it's based off of that and I read this book in 2020. It is god awful. It is one of the worst written things I've ever read in my life. It doesn't make any sense. Uh, I mean, the prose is weird and the the dialect is weird, but it does strike some strange thing, like you know, and so that's where you get a lot of the, the time travel conspiracies and stuff. But you know, this kind of this got me thinking when you were talking about the energy tower and if you're wondering folks, we'll do more of this. I really want to do like a deep dive on Ingersoll Lockwood and this whole thing. That's a whole other episode, yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, I just had to tie it in.
Speaker 1:No, and I wanted to explain it because it's actually been on my mind. This is weird stuff that goes together, I think, because it's like we have a future that was stolen from us and we are in a stunted timeline, a stunted century. I don't believe that we have a natural progression, organic progression of human ingenuity, and I don't think that it's reflected in our current reality. And here's a great example. Think that it's reflected in our current reality. And here's a great example.
Speaker 1:If you go back to the end of the 19th century, you know, john D Rockefeller a lot, with the help of the House of Rothschild out of Ohio, was creating this oil empire, you know, and buying up smaller oil companies. Well, a lot of that had to do with kerosene lamps, you know, and like heating lamps and other things, and that's what they use that crude for. And it wasn't really until it was going to go down in price because they started creating more cheap electricity, so you didn't need the oil lamps. And there was this weird time where it looked like crude oil wasn't really going to be as viable for the future as it looked like it was, you know, 10, 15 years prior.
Speaker 1:And then all of a sudden, you know, there's the automobile and it's gasoline powered and that's probably, I think, no accident. I don't think it's necessarily. We were supposed to have the gasoline powered car and it had to run off crude oil. And then you look at all the things that are the that crude is involved in, like whether it's plastics or pharmaceuticals, um, and the whole rockefeller system, everything's based off of that. The school system's all based off of that oil money. But our entire reality so there was a split there as well. Uh, did you guys look at anything on as far as like what different tech not like if? Whether it be ethanol, uh, whether it's part electric or different types of other powered motors.
Speaker 3:Well, chris was talking. So the first thing I'd like to say and pass it off to Chris because he mentioned this before we started the podcast. But there's all sorts of mentions of just making the gasoline-powered engine more efficient that were stifled. You can look up Charles Pogue and the Pogue carburetor, for instance, or tom ogle and these. These were ways of basically you know, the carburetor is the part of the gas powered engine that mixes air and liquid fuel for combustion and then it's sent to the ellen cylinders where it's ignited to power the engine. So the part of you carburetor, use vaporized gas and it kind of remind me of how they make turbo engines now.
Speaker 3:But even those attempts and they did demonstrations of getting like 200 miles per gallon, 220 miles per gallon, they filed successfully for patents. People offered them lots of money for them and even those attempts were stifled by the oil industry. I mean that's where the inventionvention Secrecy Act of 1951 came, because efficient engines were not good for oil companies. So they essentially lobbied for this act, meaning if you file an invention, you patent something and that is deemed to threaten security or economic interest, it can be classified. So there's a book that's taught in a Fourier optics class. It's entitled Fourier Optics. It was written by this guy named Joseph Goodman, and the funny thing about that book was it was his PhD thesis and the government stepped in and classified it for 25 years. So they do this stuff. But, chris, I'll pass this off to you because you were mentioning, I think, stanley Meyer and some other people who actually brought forth inventions like the water car Right. So similar to maybe using electrolysis to disassociate oxygen and hydrogen, using hydrogen for combustion.
Speaker 2:Oh, electrolysis. Forgive me if I'm I might be wrong, but electrolysis is. I think that's something my mother wanted to do in terms of like certain hairs, like on her face, and things like that. So are we talking about the same?
Speaker 3:Yeah, can she do that in a car?
Speaker 2:Yeah, in a car form, All right, was it through the drive-thru? Chris, it was a drive-thru electrolysis.
Speaker 1:Electrolysis.
Speaker 2:They'd get rid of a woman's mustache if they had to. Yeah, in the late 1970s, joseph Newman invented an energy machine which he claimed could power automobiles and provide energy to homes at virtually no cost. To no one's surprise, newman was denied a patent by the US Patent Office in 1979. Newman held many public demonstrations of this device, which drew large and enthusiastic crowds, and no one could find any chicanery on his part. However, because his machine violated the known laws of science, his potentially groundbreaking invention has been suppressed. Newman is still active and has a loyal following, but clearly powerful forces would be adversely affected by the widespread implementation of a device like his spread implementation of his device like his and.
Speaker 2:According to a study by Climate Progress, in the first quarter of 2011 alone, the four major oil companies made over $18 billion in profits, an astounding 40% increase over their massive profits from the previous year in 2010. Profits from the previous year in 2010. Included in this figure was $5.5 billion for BP, which had supposedly incurred heavy expenses in cleaning up the Gulf oil spill. In addition to their huge profits, big Oil also receives $4 billion in annual tax subsidies. Is it realistic to expect the plutocrats who rape the public in such a fashion to give up everything up for the benefit of humanity. And I'm reading this from actually a deleted chapter from our mutual friend Donald Jeffries. In his book Hidden History he had a chapter that Sky Horse ended up nixing and it had all to do with alternative energy.
Speaker 3:I've never heard Don say rape. I guess that would be the first time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, he had had. Yeah, every now and then when he has a new book like survival of the richest, he had a whole uh, he had a whole chapter that had to do with um, uh, in hidden history, like what I'm reading from. Uh, he had a deleted chapter that had to do with alternative energy. But in survival of the richest he had a whole chapter that had to do with secret societies and and basically the, the rich and wealthy class, basically getting away with, you know, loopholes in the, in the system and everything. But he did raise good points with Joseph Newman, who I also had. I had a whole other article on the side about. He was really trying to get this free energy machine that would power every automobile and home, but he couldn't really get a patent in 1979.
Speaker 3:So was this a zero energy, zero point energy machine?
Speaker 2:He called it.
Speaker 3:Because I was going to explain why they deny patents for those.
Speaker 2:Well, in this particular energy. It was an energy machine in 1979, and it was a perpetual motion machine.
Speaker 3:And it was a perpetual motion machine. Yeah, so what they say is that those machines are violating the second law of thermodynamics because they're outputting more power or energy than you're putting energy into them. But that's kind of a misnomer if you talk to the guys who are designing these over unity devices or things like that, because they say they're not getting energy out of nothing, they're getting it from the zero point field. So there was this idea that if you think of a vacuum at absolute zero Kelvin, so absolutely no temperature, so temperature is just a measure of how much thermal excitation there is, so no thermal excitation, no energy. Right Wrong? You can actually look this up. There's an effect called the Casimir effect and so basically there are energetic particles that are sizzling in this quantum vacuum and so it consists of particles, antiparticles, colliding giving off energy. So the advocates of the zero point field and Tesla is one of them think that actually the vacuum is, is, is made up of this thing called an ether, is made up of this thing called an ether, and we don't believe in the ether anymore. But the ether was basically the explanation for how light can propagate between planets or in outer space and it's like well, they have to have some medium for these particles to be transported from one point to another and they called it the ether. And nobody believes it anymore. But Maxwell James Clerk Maxwell, who grouped together the equations that govern electrodynamics and are still used today, he believed in an ether.
Speaker 3:Other physicists, like Hendrick Lorentz, believed in an ether. Willis Lamb was another. He's known for the Lamb shift. He's a Nobel laureate. And Hendrick Lorentz? The funny thing about him is he actually invented the Lorentz transformation that was later used by Einstein in special relativity to get around some difficulties with the ether. So they all believed in an ether, but they tried to do experiments to show that it existed and they couldn't, so they just dropped it. So this whole idea of it violating the second law of thermodynamics, that's technically true. But the advocates for the alternative point of position say but that's wrong, because we're not creating energy out of nothing, we're siphoning it off from this other means. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, and let's go back to the second law of thermodynamics and that has to do with entropy, correct? And that's like the definition of entropy, where it's like a gradual decline because you start, the energy output can't exceed the input, or you know, so there's a slow breakdown. Is that what you're referring to?
Speaker 3:yeah, so that they'll often say energy cannot be, you know, created or destroyed, it's just transferred. So when you have devices and they say I can and this happened right there was a guy named floyd sparky sweet who was well known and he had this thing called a vacuum triode amplifier and he just kept plugging in more, more devices. He it increased his load, meaning how much current was required to drive these devices, and he said he was tapping into the zero point field. And it just said I'll supply you more and more because I got a lot of this shit and actually I'll put off. I mean, because these guys always show up, I'll put off um, that dode character, you know, they always show up.
Speaker 3:And he said basically, if you had a cup full of zero point energy, you could boil off all the oceans with it, but in in any case, yes, so it's. Basically, if you increase your load, you can plug more things in it. It that's not a limitation for it. It can drive even harder and harder and harder, and that's what it does. But people at the patent office are directed If anything violates these laws, then you need to get rid of it and deny the patent.
Speaker 1:No, seriously, because they're like that's not scientifically. There was a US congressman, I believe in the I want to say mid to late 1800s, who wanted to stop all future patents because he said everything's already been invented so we should shut down. He wanted to cut the budget for the patent office. He said why are we taking even new stuff? Everything's already been invented.
Speaker 3:Right. Well, some people have actually demonstrated that things work, like there's one by Howard Johnson called the Johnson Magnetron motor and he demonstrated it worked. And he's like you know, it cannot violate conservation of energy, it's just operating differently than what you think it is. And they said no, it did not, but I think it. There's reasons to speculators suggest that they know that these things exist. Like I said, you can. You can Wikipedia right now or Google the Casimir force. It's something that's studied in physics, it's a real force. So they know there's energy from quantum fluctuations in the vacuum, but they use it as a means to read these patents and discount whatever was said. I remember because Einstein worked in a patent office and he had this miraculous year in 1914. He published four huge papers and one of them was special relativity. But family guy had like a joke a tidbit.
Speaker 3:He's working in the patent office and someone caves in. He goes, I call it special relativity, and Einstein, just like, hits him with a hammer and looks around. So there's something to be said of reading these patents and then denying them. What kind of cover do you have when you submit things like that?
Speaker 2:So, Mr Anderson, do you have an expose on Mr Stanley Meyer?
Speaker 3:Stanley Meyer. Yeah, the water car guy. So yeah there's. I kind of, when I was doing this research and breaking it down, I kind of separated, you know, the POG carburetor and trying to make the gas powered engine more efficient versus something alternative completely to gas.
Speaker 2:Like water.
Speaker 3:Like you were saying, tony, and so Stanley Meyer, his was the Stanley Meyer water car. And so that's when I was talking about electrolysis and breaking apart oxygen and hydrogen. And electrolysis is really difficult in the sense you have to use pure water. You can't have minerals or fluoride, tony, fluoride.
Speaker 1:But we need that. You do need fluoride.
Speaker 3:You need fluoride for the water cart.
Speaker 1:Lots of it, right, it's good.
Speaker 3:It's good for your teeth, but you need clean water and typically a lot of energy. But he developed these things called water fuel cell injectors and they use normal water so you could have minerals and all the fluoride you want it All the fluoride the government wants you to have in it, wants you to have in it and um, drink it up. So yeah. So he came up with this engine that ran on water as we were talking off air. Other people, like bob lazar, have actually demonstrated stuff like this. So he was offered around 1 billion I think it was reportedly in cash to sell his patent to oil producing companies. He didn't want to so in. He was at a restaurant with his brother, supposedly meeting some Belgian investors, and they toasted. He took a shot of something and he immediately ran out of the restaurant, fell down the street and told his brother they poisoned me. He literally died.
Speaker 2:And supposedly Mr Anderson, if I may interject here. Supposedly it was with NATO officials at a Cracker Barrel diner.
Speaker 3:Supposedly it was with NATO officials at a Cracker Barrel diner. Yeah, so the official report said it was a brain aneurysm and he was at lunch with NATO officials. And I'm like even the official account is weird.
Speaker 2:How would it be if he died meeting with NATO?
Speaker 3:officials.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Come on. So that's what happened with him, and he apparently had other disruptive technologies, had other disruptive technologies For instance, a donut-shaped invention the government had classified using that National Security Act or whatever it's called to classify it, and it was supposedly a zero-point energy device like we were discussing. So they step in all the time and they have a really good mechanism with patents to regulate what you can make money from and if, if that doesn't work, then they'll come after you in other ways and, um, a lot of these people, like I just mentioned stanley meyer, end up dead. There was another guy named tom ogle and, um, he was another person that was making engines that run on its own fumes, so another variation of the pro carburetor and he was shot by a stranger outside of a bar and they, so they tried to seth rich him and he didn't die and then he ended up dying, like, I think, a couple months later after being poisoned. So I mean, what the hell?
Speaker 2:they said he was. They said he was supposedly being robbed and he there was no, because that was from seth rich. You mean no, when they said well, the seth rich excuse was that he was being robbed and that's why he got shot and they didn't take anything. They didn't take that shit, is this the same thing?
Speaker 3:No, I just said they did something like that because it was outside of a bar when Seth Rich was shot, like 2 o'clock, 3 o'clock in the morning, something ridiculous. And it happened to this guy, tom Ogle, and he was young, he was in his mid-20s but he was at a friend's apartment and they said he overdosed on drugs. And I mean I think he drank, but he wasn't known to do drugs Doesn't mean he couldn't have, but his family and friends, including the ones at the party, said he was poisoned. So it's just weird that these sorts of situations there are only so many instances of people coming up with something that's reportedly revolutionary. Coming up with something that's reportedly revolutionary, and even with Tom Ogle, I think Shell Shell Oil Company offered him something like $20 million so they could own his patent and then just sit on it right and figure out how they could seal it and do something and make a variation of it in the future to make money, because patents only last so long, right.
Speaker 2:Well, that's like time-life purchasing the Zapruder film and throwing it in the vault for 12 years.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, remember that. What was it Flash of Genius movie about the guy who invented the interval and the windshield wiper motor? Oh, yeah, yeah, you know, because he just had this, oh, basically, where you could get the speeds. You know different speeds and the variations of the windshield wiper motor. And he went to Ford Motor Company and said I've got this. And then they said oh, thank you. And shook his hand and they made one themselves and it cost him his marriage, everything. But he fought them for 20 years and finally had some sort of relief. There was some sort of relief to it and a judgment, but by that time everything is gone from him. But he had to fight these huge corporations and it's really not that hard.
Speaker 1:Folks. You know, if you really study the way that universities are doled out, you know all of their funds and donations and all the trusts that are set up. The people that get funded are the ones that are friendly with the funders and again, that's really not that. That's why you have something like you'll have a Donald Jeffries who can't find a major publisher for, I mean, a magnificent book like Hidden History. Or they'll have things like Chris just said, and that's the first time I've ever heard. You heard it here first. We actually read you a deleted chapter from hidden history yeah, alternative energy yeah alternative energy horse nixed it yep, so that's, that's what we're talking.
Speaker 1:It's really not that hard to just suppress something in general if it doesn't feed, uh, the wishes of of those in control.
Speaker 3:Well, it makes the climate thing new, tony was just talking about.
Speaker 2:the flash of genius movie came out in 2008 and it was the true life story of Robert Kearns. Sorry, Mr Anderson.
Speaker 3:No, I was just going to say it makes this whole debate about, you know, global warming or climate change mood, because it's like no, we have alternative energies or means for clean energy that have existed for like 100 years. So in principle, I mean, the greenhouse effect makes sense. But one the politicians really don't believe it. I mean, look at Obama and the mansion he built on the coast at Martha's Vineyard. They don't believe it. And two, if it's true, there's nothing you can do about it. And three, we know, based on geological records, that there have been something like seven known ice ages. And what do you think caused those dinosaurs in their dino cars? I mean, give me a break.
Speaker 2:Well, here's the other thing too. I'll bring it back. I'll bring UFOs into it. Most of the observable technology with UFOs right for the most part, part. Most people say that it's anti-grav gravitational right, like it, it's almost like uh, the magnetic uh poles or whatever uh are propelling these aircraft in the sky. Right like am I? Am I talking like science fiction here? Like most of the time, what we see is not rocket-based propulsion but some kind of electromagnetic propulsion of these.
Speaker 2:Even with the Tic Tac UFO from 2004 that Joe Rogan had I forget the captain, but the fighter pilot came on and talked about the Tic Tac UFO that the US military was tracking. Right, it was doing like inconceivable movements. That pretty much flies in the face of what we know of basic physics, right In our known reality, basic physics, right in our known reality. It almost, it almost seems like it's had there. In terms of the propulsion system of whatever these aircraft that the military has been tracking for a very long time, even before 2004, seems to be some kind of magnetic propulsion. Tony, am I talking as he leaves? All right, well, mr anderson, like you know what I'm talking about. Like it, it's almost like it's on a magnetic uh propulsion system, for lack of a better term yeah, I think there used to be, in the 50s, a lot of research into anti-gravitic technology anti-gravity I mean they called them g engines and that they were popular and as even a public term them um is, they were called g engines.
Speaker 3:so Lawrence D Bell, the inventor of the rocket plane, was involved in this research and the idea was for this to replace all other motors. But then it all went dark due to the National Security Act. So all this talk of anti-gravitic technology and other means of propulsion went dark after the 50s. Antigravitic technology and other means of propulsion went dark after the 15th.
Speaker 2:And that was 1950, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So so you have to imagine that of course it's being suppressed and, as Tony mentioned, you know I agree wholeheartedly. I mean they control this where the research is headed, by controlling the buzz, buzz words and what they're willing to fund. So if you want to go out on a limb as a tenure track professor and do your own little fun research and don't meet any of the goals that you signed up to, don't stay in your little box. You're not going to get any more funding from any of these agencies in the future and you're not going to get tenure. So that's a pretty good way, that's a pretty good carrot for you to follow right Carrot and stick approach, and that's what they do.
Speaker 1:Well, the for you to follow right Carrot and stick approach, and that's what they do, the variable in all of this. So, if you want to take it to from a rational standpoint cause I like to do both sides of the coin, and coins actually have three sides yeah, they have heads, tails and then there's the edge. That's, that's the one way to look at it. But let's just go over to if you've got the suppression of technology and then you end up with a stunted reality and a stunted future and all the stuff that we were robbed of. That's the case. That's probably where I I go instinctually, knowing what I know about history. But there's something else to it. There's the opposite side of that is if, if that's the case, then why didn't a rogue government go ahead and leapfrog us and do something else? You know that's kind of the argument you can make against a flat earth, or you know, you know the people that believe that there's no space travel at all and that you know there's not.
Speaker 2:There is no space and all that it's very possible, tony, you're right, but it's what they refer to as the breakaway society.
Speaker 1:Well, that's what I was getting at. Right, that was the edge. Right. The edge was that basically the governments themselves are stunted on purpose, right, as a sideshow. And then there's the breakaway civilizations where they've actually taken all this technology. They've left us with the, the 1.0, like we're an analog we're the scraps and they're like hey, leave them an analog in perpetuity.
Speaker 1:Maybe we'll throw them a thing here every once in a while. It would explain a lot. It would explain, you know, why we have an advance, why there's you know there's there's not a base on the moon or there's not, uh, further explorations or anything like, why we're just again like we seem stunted, why everything's so run down. It's actually entropy. Itself is the way our, our entire civilization looks right now. It doesn't, you know, even in, even in, like you know, there's obviously breaks in the, the known history narrative, where you're talking about the, the egyptian civilization or even the roman civilization. Like how'd they go from having all these roads and aqueducts and ruling known history narrative, where you're talking about the, the egyptian civilization, or even the roman civilization. Like how'd they go from having all these roads and aqueducts and ruling pretty much all the known world to collapse and nothing, you know, in a thousand years of of darkness? I mean is, how did that happen?
Speaker 1:Well, things do sometimes go in reverse, but we're this is something totally different. We've got a kept record and things didn't go. It wasn't up and to the right, or even like a dip, and then back up, like we've had this very slow flat line with some things mixed in, like the ARPANET, which was 1968, the invention of what we now know as the internet. That's pretty much it. There's a few things sprinkled here and there, but it's not the future that HG Wells wrote about in things like the movie Things to Come. This was a book. I think the book was what's to Come or something like that. Well, tony, I don't know.
Speaker 2:We're about the same age, right, you got maybe a couple of years on me, but I don't know about you. But in kindergarten we had a library. We had access to a library in our elementary school and we had books left over from the 1960s which they would showcase what scientists and what engineers thought the year the uh, the year 2000 would be from the perspective of like 1965 and it was all jet packs and hydro cars on water cities, cloud cities, uh, flying cars and everything. That was probably the trajectory that we, like you, talked about alternate, you know, timelines that we should have been on. That seems like it was the direction we were supposed to be on.
Speaker 3:Chris, you don't like TikTok and Uber Eats. What's your problem? No, I don't. I hate Uber Eats. Yeah, I hate TikTok. You do hate Uber Eats.
Speaker 2:We are in a reality, a future reality, that involves things like the internet, that, that original 1965 book that I would look at in kindergarten in 1989 in a library in Norfolk, massachusetts. Right, that is like the polar opposite, like the internet was the polar opposite of the flying cars, jet packs, uh, us being in a, in a uh, uh, a future. That was almost utopian and everything I mean. Maybe that was just a bunch of horseshit, but it was like a jetsons, like trajectory where we.
Speaker 1:Well, you would think that I mean if you were, if you were in 1916. You look back to where we were in 1930 and then between that time, what the world's fair, what the world we just right.
Speaker 1:The world's fair, that that's world. We just write the world's fair. That's a whole other rabbit hole too. But you know, you would think with 1945, you have the, the invention of the atomic bomb, you have the fission bomb, the 1946, they discovered DNA, yeah, and in the early 50s or late, late 40s, early 50s, we have confirmed jet travel, rocketry. There's all this stuff that's happening. It's these huge leaps and then all of a sudden there's this slowdown. And that's what I think is so weird about today, and I think that's why this is a good conversation to have, because we didn't get the future we were promised. And there's something, something just very disruptive about where we are now yeah, and also a phenomenon that you guys are.
Speaker 2:Probably you guys are much smarter than I am, but I didn't even realize that. Do you know? If you google certain like major cities and even more obscure cities all over the United States, they all had great fires in the early 1900s which I had no idea about and I'm Mr Conspiracy, going back to like the early 90s, mid 90s I never knew about this phenomenon until I listened to Jim Brewer on his Brewing Verse podcast. I know Sam Tripoli had a couple of shows on it. That is fascinating, that the idea that the world's fairs, uh, in the early 1900s they all came down with like mysterious fires, and not only that, but major and minor american cities all had these great fires that burned down all the architecture and everything like at the time and they had to rebuild. That makes no sense to me and I don't know if it has a correlation of what we're talking about alternative energy.
Speaker 2:It probably does, sure does there was certain like things, like healing factors when it came to, like, bell towers in cities where people actually went to mass, what they considered mass at the time, it was a great healing. Once a week they would go there and there would be there would be certain um frequencies that were no big deal.
Speaker 3:Giano dato did research into this, actually, but go ahead, no, that's I have.
Speaker 2:I have only heard that, like I thought it was nonsense and at this point I should know better. I need to question everything at this point. We've been lied to about every single thing in history in the fabric of our realities. I never really zoned in on this type of stuff Like great fires. That would just just, it would literally like they would take out all the architecture of all, not only major cities like chicago. The great chicago fire, kalamazoo, like, really like smaller places were known to have these major fires. That would take out everything and I don't feel like there's too many people really zeroing in on that.
Speaker 1:It's almost like it was spliced or something. Yeah, we spliced our current reality. We were talking off air folks about uh. What today is like. We're recording this on june 9th and today is the 50 year uh anniversary and the expiry. This is when the uh the agreement between saudi arabia and united states lapses and saudi's not going to resign for the petrodollar. So this is actually the episode where the petrodollar dies.
Speaker 1:I didn't realize it was going to be so swift, so quickly, but that's another aspect of it's like yeah you know, and you could talk about tesla, but let's talk about, like the tesla we you know that we're referring to now with electric cars. See, that's another part of it's like it's. It's like a false, like, oh it's. You know, we have a, we have these electric vehicles, but there didn't Mr Anderson, am I right about this? And I've seen different reports but there's Toyota. Didn't Toyota do a study on how can we, you know, as far as Toyota going over to electric vehicles, these like so the Japanese, when they do something, they do it right, and they're like, they're like we actually can't do that. There's not enough minerals, and like we couldn't do the mining, it wouldn't work. Like just to outfit all cars with electric batteries and all the stuff that the cobalt, the lithium, all the things that we need. So they just like not doing it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I remember hearing or reading the same thing that they didn't buy into the craze Because, if you think about it, if everyone on the planet right now magically had an electric car, there'd be no way to power them, because 80% of the energy that's created is still from coal and natural gas and oil. So what are you doing? I mean, it's just a way for you to make yourself look good or feel important, but more than that, I think it's for people who can own Tesla, as they say they own a Tesla. But even the name Tesla pisses me off, because it's not jiving with what Tesla wanted, right? He wanted free energy for everybody, and this is what's the way to describe this. This is like a red herring. This isn't the way to it. It's misdirection. It's let's not even talk about the stuff off the table. We can speculate and we have good reason to, but let's just talk about the things on the table, right? This isn't the best way forward. With all the energy options we have available on the table. The best option is obviously nuclear energy, but they don't want to pursue that.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, the lithium ion batteries are terrible. Solar cells are terrible. So something that was declassified showed what people in the patent office were directed to classify or throw away, and one of the things that they were ordered to classify immediately were any energies that um advertised like greater than 20 efficiency in solar cells, and I think this was in the 1970s, and that's a big number, because there's actually a thermodynamic fundamental limit on how efficient just silicon solar cells can be, and it's on the order of like 23 percent, right. So they're not even that efficient. They only last about 20 years. The shittier ones last even less than that, the ones that are from China. And then where do you put them? Where do you put them? What do you do with all this stuff? What do you do with all the batteries from the Tesla cars that, basically, the child slaves are digging in and mining out in Africa right now, what do you do?
Speaker 3:with all that? And where are the people who are advocates of civil you know, civil rights and human rights and things like that? Why aren't they talking about those sorts of things?
Speaker 1:Yeah, the Smurf children. I mean they're actually blue. The kids go get the cobalt.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And they only call them like. They're like, they're just blue people. You know it's interesting that there was an interchange between Pothole Pete, Pete Buttigieg, you know, he's the director of transportation for the United States and he comes from a place what is it? South Bend, indiana, where he couldn't fix the streets. They call him Pothole. But he was getting grilled by Thomas Massey and Massey was telling him he's like you know, if you add electric car to a home and you got to plug it in and that's, you know, it has to be a power source. That's like adding 26 refrigerators. So do you have a power grid to that? You're not working on the grid, obviously, but you're. You're promoting electric cars and trying to get rid of gasoline powered cars. And Buttigieg, just, you know they don't even know what they're doing. They're just these stooges that they put up. And he's a I think he's another like Obama kind of a construct of intelligence with his so so-called whatever background in in.
Speaker 3:Massey has a master's from MIT in engineering. I just want to point that out. I didn't know that?
Speaker 1:Well, I didn't know that. That makes sense. Yeah, so he's like you're adding 26 refrigerators, but you don't have a grid to support it. But you're going to make everybody get an electric car. You want people to get it. See, I think one of the biggest like sleight of hand ever is trying to phase out gasoline powered cars, which you know maybe we shouldn't even have this long, but we still do. And I love you know, I got the one, I got the last Dodge Challenger, you know, and they're not making it anymore.
Speaker 2:They're going to neuter it. At least you know with your Dodge Challenger that someone with a cell phone or from an agency can throw you into a tree like Michael Hastings.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, I'll be sure and say something clever, no but you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:something clever, no, but you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:like at least with the gas power.
Speaker 2:No, I don't need mr tinfoil hat right now, but at least with a gas powered car. I feel more safe with that than, uh, these other ones that have their computers and everything where literally hijack into your car and drive you into a tree well how they get tony as they take off his lug nuts right.
Speaker 3:Well, the lug nuts.
Speaker 1:All but one.
Speaker 3:All but one.
Speaker 1:On the front left tire.
Speaker 3:That really happened to you, does Chris?
Speaker 1:know that. Really, the audience doesn't know that. Well, sometimes people try to kill you folks.
Speaker 2:No way, all right. Well, I never heard this. Okay, all right.
Speaker 1:That's an episode for another pair of truth. Okay, I got you I don't play nerf, uh, but let's, this is real life okay this is chess, not checkers.
Speaker 1:yeah, um, but I think I think what it comes down to with the electric car is that it I think it's a road to nowhere. I mean and I'm not even making a pun out of that, I think it's. I think they're just selling us a lemon Again, not a pun but they're just going to put us in a note where it's about you not going anywhere. They want to get us away from being mobile, and not only that, but it just seems that every time they can squelch and destroy the human ingenuity, the spirit of let's build something different or better, it's what's coming out, that's the vibe that you get, right.
Speaker 2:It plays into the 15-minute cities, right? Because then they know exactly where you're going. If you have to call up an Uber every time you've got to go to the grocery store, right? That's the narrative. That's the narrative.
Speaker 3:Most people who have Teslas don't even know who nicola tesla is right. Like I said, it's just a bad joke at this point or like a big a way of thumbing people who are actually paying yeah, they're all paying attention they're team edison, right thomas edison was a mean, nasty person
Speaker 1:oh, he was a jerk, oh yeah well, it's the lesson on Tesla, and Robert Green talks about this in his book the 48 Laws of Power. Tesla really didn't want to play the Machiavellian games that people play. He wasn't a power player, he just wanted to make things and unfortunately, we live in the world where you have to, and at least where you have to understand that's being done to you, and Tesla was altruistic and all this other stuff, and he's a really great. He's a great human being. Well, some people think he was actually from Venus or something. There's these of a notion.
Speaker 2:but they did the Howard Hughes to him, right, tony, like they, they made him a recluse, right Right.
Speaker 1:Well, it's just, you know, and he had. And well, mr Anderson started talking at the beginning of the show about how he died in that hotel. And what was it? Three, two, seven. So what was it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, three, three, two, seven. I just those numbers and I saw it, I immediately.
Speaker 1:But I know that for a fact. If you read into Tesla, he would not stay in a hotel room that had those numbers Right, wasn't? It wasn't that he avoided those numbers like, and somehow he ended up in the room?
Speaker 3:it's almost like a cosmic you're right, he did avoid certain numbers. I forget if they were prime numbers or not, though I mean that'd be hard to avoid them all let me look it up all you.
Speaker 1:Let you take it from. I'll look it up real quick. Why are we before we end it? It's like what numbers the tesla avoid um yeah, tesla was a.
Speaker 3:He was a strange person, he was a bit of a recluse, I mean, um, even when he was in colorado springs, which is where he did a lot of the laboratory experiments, if you ever see the movie prestige the prestige, which I really liked- yeah, david bowie david bowie god rest his soul was tesla, and that's where all those experiments are taking place.
Speaker 3:Tesla's at his lab in Colorado Springs. So actually, when you were mentioning Stanley Meyer, Chris, there's actually an interview. He did that. That I saw. That's recorded where he's being interviewed by the press and there's actually a conference in Colorado Springs and the conference is there, obviously because of Tesla.
Speaker 2:Was that the one he was talking about, where the 22 gallons of water would power the?
Speaker 3:coast to coast. You go coast to coast, was the estimate. But yeah, so he lived in Colorado Springs and he was kind of a strange guy. I mean, he made friends there because he was nice, but he would just wander around, you know, planting light bulbs into the grass trying to get them to turn on, you know, at three o'clock in the morning, so so he was strange, but he had a romanticized view of how things should work and he seemed to refuse to play the game as Tony was suggesting. So when people played hardball with him, he was very disappointed.
Speaker 3:I mean, if you ever read some of the letters he kept writing to JP Morgan when JP Morgan stopped construction at Wharncliffe Tower. Writing to JP Morgan when JP Morgan stopped construction at Wharncliffe Tower because Tesla was such a perfectionist he'd want to stop or halt a project and redo it and he was just begging for this much more money and it's going to be so worth it, this much more money. Jp Morgan was like sorry, we don't have the money for that, or something like that. When he clearly did so, he was heartbroken by that and I think that was one of the things that really drove him even further into isolation and being a recluse, but the other cool thing about wharncliffe tower is there's tunnels underneath it too. There's all sorts of weird stuff that's not documented.
Speaker 3:That was always the tunnels of these things, but I feel bad for tesla, but again I mean he just he's contrary to that notion. You need a phd from a high flight school and everything like that. He didn't have that. And again at the beginning of the show I just listed a couple of the things he invented. I mean, can you imagine life with that wireless communication, your cell phone without AC electricity? The induction motor? I mean probably x-rays. He discovered x-rays, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1:I mean all those stuff, and he was at the turn of the, the 20th century. That's remarkable to me. I'll read what I was able to find now I would say for the audience I'm just going off memory from like 20 something years ago, me watching a documentary. But I was, I remember he wouldn't stay in a room, in a hotel room, if it had a certain number. But but this is what the AIs come up with. Nikola Tesla had a fascination with the numbers 3, 6, and 9. He believed they held a special significance, although it's uncertain whether he actually uttered the famous quote Tesla allegedly said If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6, and 9, then you would have a key to the universe. His obsession extended to the point where he would only stay in hotel rooms that were divisible by three.
Speaker 3:There you go.
Speaker 1:That's what it was.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I remember you mentioning this to me and it didn't stick what it was, but I remember you mentioned it.
Speaker 1:It's just been. I mean it's been like 20s. I mean this is back in the nineties when I was watching, you know, documentaries late at night in my room in Texas. But yeah, it's a great mind, but it's a lesson, as we kind of wind down the episode. We live in a world where you got to understand it's not about altruism and it's not even about having the best ideas. There's some. You know, really all the best ideas are in the graveyard. Folks, I mean people didn't either bring them to fruition, or they didn't believe in themselves, or they were squashed.
Speaker 3:He ripped up his royalties contract. He should not have done that I know he did, though, and then he was penniless when he died. But, he wanted the masses, the people, to have access to the technology. He really believed that and even though I think you and I and Chris agree that's not how you got to be a little bit more cutthroat than that, I mean I can't knock him for wanting. I mean he did what he said, right, I mean he as smart as he was.
Speaker 2:As smart as he was, he should have known that the powers that be would never let him just give away free energy.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And I'm pretty stupid and I get that that puts a target on your ass. So I mean, for any Tesla fanatics out there, I don't apologize, actually, because you shouldn't use your brain Talking to one. No, you gotta use your brain these. No, you got to use your brain Like these people are not going to let you give away free it, just you should have known better.
Speaker 1:Well, maybe and there's a chance not to be able to delve into his mind completely but there is a chance that maybe he knew exactly what he was doing and that's what his fate was, and he felt like he was better than having to get down on the level you know, even if you shame on me, because you're probably right, it's like, it's like he knew.
Speaker 1:He knew that it was screwing him, but he was going to do it anyway, right, I've made decisions in my life where I where if I'd have fought for something and done the machiavellian thing, I would actually came out on top. But I hurt myself because to me in some weird way, psychologically, it felt like it was weaker to do the thing that would make me win. I don't know if that maybe that's the way he thought of it.
Speaker 1:I can't put, I'm not where you're right, I'm in the shadow of Tesla in any, in all aspects.
Speaker 2:For me to call him out, for me to call him out like a, like a jerk, just now. No, but you got it but you raise a great point that sometimes people feel like there's a bigger cause than themselves. And I didn't even my small brain didn't even consider that.
Speaker 1:Well in it a lot of. Sometimes, though, it's not even just about being about the bigger picture. Sometimes it's like how some people's mind operates, where, actually, the course where they would become like benefit actually seems weaker to them. They take, they hurt themselves to. That's just how they do it. I mean, I've done it before. I would be way farther ahead in my life if I had made decisions that way. You know where I'd actually been more Machiavellian.
Speaker 3:Well, tony, you and I have discussed certain examples about you. Know well I don't want to bend the knee or kiss the ring Like I'm not going to sacrifice who I am as a person or my ideals for that Screw that thing. So I can understand being a little ornery in that regard to the system and the ways that it works and saying I'm not going to participate because I don't like it. Now we might say it seems a little silly, but I don't know.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty hard headed so I can understand. Well, there's that's the, that's the bar, the Faustian bargain. It's like, am I going to dance with the devil? Am I going to you know again? It's like, am I going to compromise my principles? So you know, there's this great story this is completely off topic, but I'm always reminded of this.
Speaker 1:You know Lyndon Johnson running for Senate in 1948, and this was like where he got called Landslide Lyndon. You know the Box 13,. They found the 83 votes in alphabetical order. I mean, he didn't win but he, he did everything he could and one of the deals he had to read an ad for this very for him is very right wing and it was anti-union and all this stuff. And he had to read this radio ad and it compromised like what he'd been, you know, championing with workers rights and all this other stuff.
Speaker 1:And he just convinced himself he's like, well, hell, if I don't read this ad and I don't win this election, then I can't fight for people anyway. So he like ramped himself up into like going and actually doing it in a very animated, passionate way, reading something he didn't believe because he knew if he lost he couldn't help. That's what he in his mind he'll say well, a year from now I'll walk in a building and no one will care who I am. So he made himself do that. And I don't I mean we can all see the results of Lyndon Johnson's life I mean that that that psychology didn't work either. I mean it's fine, it might've helped him temporarily, but it made it a lot worse off world, especially with with Vietnam and the rest.
Speaker 3:Another big brain man.
Speaker 1:Another big brain man, right, so I don't know what was. You know how definitely people need to be aware that, that those are the powers that be, and it's even more consolidated now than it's ever been. Folks, that's what the New World Order is. Don't don't ever forget. It's a consolidation game. You know, they did a report back in 2000. It's a big study out of Switzerland in in 2011 or so, and they just drilled down into all these corporations and and what what holding companies own them and traced them back up and and really almost all major corporations flow back to about five banking entities. Yeah, all over five. Okay, it's like. And it's like worse fears confirmed, because over the time, it's like when our media went in this country, it went from like when I was born in 79, that you know it was about, you know 40 consolidated and you know sprinkling radio stations were everywhere, small papers. Now it's like three companies own 90, something percent, like three or four.
Speaker 1:It's a very small pool of actual ownership for a very large thing. So it's the same way with universities. So there's a very I think. I personally I believe that they have a breakaway. The elites have some sort of breakaway civilization. I think that's what you're seeing with like these Tic Tac videos and other stuff. That's challenging. I do think that they have this kind of stuff and most likely in antarctica, to be honest new schwab and hey, we got klaus schwab.
Speaker 1:And go down to new schwab and land and fit right in. They see speaks the language. You can wear that weird outfit with the high collar and you know high five dracula.
Speaker 3:And all this do you? You see the Babylon Bee about him. Klaus Schwab retires to go back to spend more time with his reptilian family, his lizard family.
Speaker 1:You've got to remember folks.
Speaker 2:Why is Antarctica so off-limits to the rest of humanity besides the military? And what is with the treaty that was signed? People have to look into that we got to do.
Speaker 2:We got to do a show on admiral bird and operation fit bowl and uh, all of that yeah, yeah, that's, that's fun that's a fascinating one the last time, the last time tony anything to do with the uh admiral bird in antarctica had to do with. Do you remember the Fitbit controversy? People in the military. They were wearing Fitbits and they were on holiday and the military realized, oh wait, they're tracking all their movements because it's supposed to be all their exercise right, how many steps they take and whatever yada, yada yada. Exercise right, how many steps they take and whatever yada, yada yada. And nine times out of 10, most of the military people that you could actually go to a website, the Fitbit's official website, at the time when it first came out and most of the time you could see that the structures that the military people, personnel that had these Fitbits on it, would form a pyramid. Personnel that had these Fitbits on it would form a pyramid, and it was usually around where they were stationed down in Antarctica.
Speaker 3:I see this.
Speaker 2:Secret.
Speaker 3:Antarctic base found with Strava Fitbit data.
Speaker 2:Well, you hear about it, so you know what I'm talking about. I just looked it up.
Speaker 3:I'd never heard of that.
Speaker 2:No, but there's not only in the Amazon, Tony and Mr Anderson, but also in other parts of the world and even on, shall I say, the moon, or even Mars, there are pyramids that have been found.
Speaker 3:There's one in Alaska supposedly yeah A black pyramid.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in Antarctica under the ice and in the Amazon in the water.
Speaker 1:Well, that goes back to like we mentioned Bob Lazar earlier.
Speaker 2:He was supposedly working on an archaeological that's what they claimed Nine of the I think it was eight of the ten disks disk-shaped crafts or UFOs or whatever. At that hangar where Bob Lazar was working in secret for S4, I think was the installation it was a part of Area 51 or whatever he said that they got a packet in terms of possible origins for these aircraft, and the one that he was working on and apparently one of the other ones that he overheard came from archaeological digs.
Speaker 3:He was asked about it. He was asked about it at Point Blake and he said they were from archaeological dig sites.
Speaker 3:From thousands of years and the thing that gets me about him is similar to a lot of the stories I encountered when researching for this podcast is these people would have their labs raided or burned down. Even Tesla did right. Edison burned down his lab. Why do they keep screwing with Bob Lazar in his little lab where he's making little science kits that he sends to young children and stuff like that, and they do? It's like? Why even mess with this guy?
Speaker 2:I think he had Element 5, I think the one that they said they claimed to find in 1989. He still had his hands on some of it.
Speaker 1:I saw yesterday I was logged into Facebook and there was a friend suggestion and it said do you want a friend? Bob Lazar had Bob Lazar's face and I'm like don't mind if I do, bob Lazar likes your post on Bob Lazar. Was it really Bob Lazar? I don Sure Bob.
Speaker 3:Lazar likes your posts on Bob Lazar. Was it really Bob Lazar? I don't know.
Speaker 1:Well, my Facebook has a decent, you know real list of people that are actual, you know public figures, but I don't know. That's one to add to the bingo card. I was thinking about it. I was thinking about it. Add to the bingo card. I was thinking about it. I was thinking about it.
Speaker 2:Well, tony, the guy that put the documentary together about Bob Lazar, if you don't mind me saying he looks like he could be your brother. The guy Jeremy, I forget his name, tony's, much better looking.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, he has his beard.
Speaker 1:That's really unfortunate for him.
Speaker 2:No, I'm saying there's a resemblance.
Speaker 1:I'll pray for him um no, I'm saying there's a resemblance.
Speaker 3:I'll pray for him oh it's okay, no no, no, chris tell a tone for your sins. Tell tony how attractive you find them.
Speaker 2:I like girls tony, so you know, you seem like, yeah, you seem very attractive with your muscles and everything, but I like girls and boobs I like beliefs and things like that. I wasn't going that far, chris, I don't mean to. Well, mr Anderson pushed me.
Speaker 1:I like boobs. Well now, I guess it's official. Chris and I are registered at.
Speaker 2:Crazy Girls, female boobs. Anyway, I guess that's a good way to end it, right?
Speaker 3:But yeah, rob Lazar actually talked about Element 115 before it was discovered officially discovered. So I mean there's a lot to his story. He said he worked at Los Alamos. They said he never worked here and then he's like in the phone directory.
Speaker 2:Part of the faculty too, and yeah, I mean it's like come on. They tried to say he didn't have the school records, and then he's not telling the full story.
Speaker 3:Don't lie about things that can be very false.
Speaker 2:But it wasn't five. I said element five, 115. Well it could be.
Speaker 1:They have huge disinformation campaigns and it could be that they took something that was completely false and they showed Bob Lazar something completely false and maybe he's a person of integrity and they figured they did his psychological profile and maybe he'll go out and tell people and be like I got to tell you what I saw. I don't know.
Speaker 3:That's what.
Speaker 1:Bill.
Speaker 3:Cooper thought happened to him right With UFOs. He did Right.
Speaker 1:With Admiral Cleary's cabinet and he was able to get into that. Yeah, there's a lot there and I think, just to wrap up the episode yeah, there's no way that this is supposed to. This is 2024 on an organic timeline. Right, there's no way, and you can see where they're winding it down. That's what the great reset is, folks. It's what Agenda 2030 is. That's what Agenda 21 is. It's not. Agenda 21 doesn't mean 2021 and they failed. It's the agenda for the 21st century, and 2030 is a milestone in that. We mentioned earlier talking about the smart cities, the 15-minute cities, where you get all the choices of one thing. You know there'll be one pharmacy and you'll get to go to one grocery store.
Speaker 2:And this is if you're lucky enough to get out of your pod and not eat both, Tony.
Speaker 1:Agenda 2030 was written about in books in 1994 oh yeah, right after rio de janeiro in 1992 is when they had the agenda 21 conference for the un, if I'm not mistaken this has been. This has been a long time in production. Uh, oh, we lose chris. Maybe we'll get him back. I think his uh, the battery cell on his uh reverse engineered Lockheed Martin UFO. Uh.
Speaker 3:I guess. I guess he's right he should have used zero.
Speaker 1:Now they're running off a Tesla battery. I told you you need those 26 refrigerators, chris, and he's just. He's just spinning. Oh well, we might have to close out the episode without, without Chris and nobody. People want to find you, mr Anderson, but they don't know that. You're very much like the old man in the cave of the twilight zone. You're just an AI program with the face.
Speaker 3:Pretty much.
Speaker 1:Pretty much so nobody. Nobody needs to find you.
Speaker 3:They just find you, first Find me.
Speaker 1:And I guess Chris is gone. We lost Chris folks. You can find him, chris Graves, on Twitter. I know that he's got a couple of great shows.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Digging Chris Graves.
Speaker 1:Digging Chris Graves right and he's on FreeWorldfm. You can find Chris. He's on every podcast in north america at one point, uh or another, uh, and this has been, I think, a fun episode.
Speaker 3:you have some fun yeah, I hope y'all enjoyed it.
Speaker 1:Um, I know it's kind of my idea to push this, but I wanted to talk about tesla well, these are the kind of fun shows technology for a while that's why we have paratrooper and I wanted to tell the audience like I got a, we got a whole host of shows that we have Paratruther. I want to tell the audience we've got a whole host of shows that we want to do here. It's not just going to be conspiracy and mystery and stuff. I'm going to do history. I've got a Roman Empire episode coming up. I think it's going to be great. We're going to do some stuff. I've got a Fauci episode we're going to do yes, which is going to be cool, and I just even just I would have subject matter that I wanted to cover, just life, just whatever's interesting. So we got a lot of good stuff. So stay tuned, share the feed.
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Speaker 3:No, sir, I'm good you can close out.
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